The moderator/owner of Byzantine Catholics Speak has decided that my presence is no longer desired in her sandbox. her final email to me is a bit confused:
A few moments after your peevish withdrawl, I got the message at the end of my note here, from Seglinde.
I have removed you from the membership list along with kathielee and hermit. There's no real need for you all to torture yourselves with our miserable company.
I'll keep you and kathielee and hermit[man] in my prayers.
Thanks again for you contributions to the list...those things of real substance I mean. When you speak substantively, you are a real gem of a participant. Otherwise you are just plain snitty and that isn't very helpful at all.
You are surely welcome back at any time but not to fly into a fit of peeve every time your sensitivities get tweaked.
Strange thing is, I had only posted exactly four messages on that group prior to this: My last message having been a rebuke over the tone of the posts. Specifically thus:
"Hows about changing the subject line too, since the thread has slid father than father's original slide?
(Unworthy lurker) "
When things got heated between Mary (owner/moderator) and another member, Hermit, I posted the following rebuke:
"WOW!!!! This email list is becoming a replica of Byzcath.org ,(including the threats to ban/moderate members), now that the forum on Byzcath has quieted down to a mere whisper lately,
Time to turn off the email feed and find some peace and quiet.
Mary Lanser wrote:
It is prideful to come into an area of the Church of which you have little knowledge and refuse to listen long enough to dispel ignorance.
It is also prideful to come among strangers and take over.
One more such outburst and I will put you on moderation till you can learn a little self control...no...a LOT of self control.
On 8/10/07, *Hermit* <firstname.lastname@example.org
St. Basil said: "To be proud is sometimes virtuous. To have pride
is a vice always. It is a killer vice. It is a big, bad major
slayer! Pride leads the parade of capital sins and always wants to
be first. Humility seeks the least or nothing. "
My reply to Mary, thus ending our rather short exchange of words, and my involvement from the beginning of her group was such:
While my support is well appreciated, I gather it wasn't appreciated well enough to retain membership on the group.
In another email you wrote:
"I have removed you from the membership list along with kathielee and hermit. There's no real need for you all to torture yourselves with our miserable company."...."Otherwise you are just plain snitty and that isn't very helpful at all. "
That comes across as "snitty" in it's own respect. Either you you do or you don't respect my views. period. I gather that you don't really respect my views because you place more weight on a few "snitty" remarks over anything substantive that I have posted.
I pray that you will find peace in whatever church you find yourself in. I myself don't like the revision of the RDL however I will remain faithful to the church of my family for so many generations before me, good bishop or bad bishops, good priests or bad priests, good cantors or bad cantors.
I regret our parting of ways was not as peaceful as one would hope, but it is a parting nonetheless.
So, a learning lesson to all: When it's somebody else's sandbox you've been invited to play in, they are always right even when they are totally wrong. Such is life. Mary started her group out of frustration and anger and her dealings with people there are still colored by that same anger. May Mary find peace in her search for the perfect church which squares with her views.